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	<title>Comments on: Interview with Rick Kuhn</title>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/08/06/interview-with-rick-kuhn/#comment-302</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, I&#039;m not defending student politics (despite the gross caricature that you made of it.) I&#039;m just saying Howard saw a chance to snuff out another traditional avenue of dissent.

Under the dominant paradigm of political advocacy it &lt;EM&gt;does&lt;/EM&gt; take money to speak out effectively. I think JWH and co were focused on shortcircuiting this, while satisfying more than a few old scores in the process. I don&#039;t terribly mind the outcome and I  reckon these chickens may come back to roost (see WA.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m not defending student politics (despite the gross caricature that you made of it.) I&#8217;m just saying Howard saw a chance to snuff out another traditional avenue of dissent.</p>
<p>Under the dominant paradigm of political advocacy it <em>does</em> take money to speak out effectively. I think JWH and co were focused on shortcircuiting this, while satisfying more than a few old scores in the process. I don&#8217;t terribly mind the outcome and I  reckon these chickens may come back to roost (see WA.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Ward</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/08/06/interview-with-rick-kuhn/#comment-301</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Explain how not forcing students to pay money to the guilds will &quot;silence&quot; anyone.

It doesn&#039;t cost anything to speak out.  Compulsory unionism was always just a great excuse to steal money from students to provide the in-crowd with cheap beer and pizza, and funnel money to their pet political causes.

The fact that the left still believes that struggling students should be forced to fund the upper-middle class private school socialists that dominate student politics just goes to show where their real priorities lie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explain how not forcing students to pay money to the guilds will &#8220;silence&#8221; anyone.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t cost anything to speak out.  Compulsory unionism was always just a great excuse to steal money from students to provide the in-crowd with cheap beer and pizza, and funnel money to their pet political causes.</p>
<p>The fact that the left still believes that struggling students should be forced to fund the upper-middle class private school socialists that dominate student politics just goes to show where their real priorities lie.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/08/06/interview-with-rick-kuhn/#comment-300</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with you guys (pinching myslef as i type) but I think Kuhn was fairly spot on regarding the Howard governments motivations though - at least at the top echelon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with you guys (pinching myslef as i type) but I think Kuhn was fairly spot on regarding the Howard governments motivations though &#8211; at least at the top echelon.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukrit</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/08/06/interview-with-rick-kuhn/#comment-299</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tax analogy used by Rick Kuhn (and also by &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.jennymacklin.net.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jenny Macklin&lt;/A&gt;) has already been demolished by Rafe and Sam, but for the record here&#039;s yet another way from Andrew Norton&#039;s &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.cis.org.au/Media/releases/releases%202005/M310805.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;VSU paper&lt;/A&gt;:

&quot;These analogies are very awkward. The non-academic fee is not levied by a government authorised to tax; students cannot go to jail for refusing to pay. How much students pay for an amenities fee depends on what university they attend, and whether they are enrolled full or part-time. It is not a percentage of income or assets, the usual way of calculating taxes and rates. By paying a non-academic fee students become directly entitled to a package of services, while taxes and government services operate independently of each other. Student associations are more like political parties or interest groups than agencies of the state. The non-academic fee needs no analogy. It is exactly what its name suggests, a market fee.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tax analogy used by Rick Kuhn (and also by <a HREF="http://www.jennymacklin.net.au/" rel="nofollow">Jenny Macklin</a>) has already been demolished by Rafe and Sam, but for the record here&#8217;s yet another way from Andrew Norton&#8217;s <a HREF="http://www.cis.org.au/Media/releases/releases%202005/M310805.htm" rel="nofollow">VSU paper</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;These analogies are very awkward. The non-academic fee is not levied by a government authorised to tax; students cannot go to jail for refusing to pay. How much students pay for an amenities fee depends on what university they attend, and whether they are enrolled full or part-time. It is not a percentage of income or assets, the usual way of calculating taxes and rates. By paying a non-academic fee students become directly entitled to a package of services, while taxes and government services operate independently of each other. Student associations are more like political parties or interest groups than agencies of the state. The non-academic fee needs no analogy. It is exactly what its name suggests, a market fee.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Ward</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/08/06/interview-with-rick-kuhn/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Making student union membership and fees voluntary is as much of a nonsense as making membership of the Australian political system and the payment of taxes voluntary.&quot;

What rubbish. It is like making membership of the Liberal or Labor party voluntary, which it is and always has been.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Making student union membership and fees voluntary is as much of a nonsense as making membership of the Australian political system and the payment of taxes voluntary.&#8221;</p>
<p>What rubbish. It is like making membership of the Liberal or Labor party voluntary, which it is and always has been.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafe</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/08/06/interview-with-rick-kuhn/#comment-297</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Democracy&quot; on campus is dominated by interest groups that generally do not serve the interests of the majority of students.

The analogy with taxes does not hold up. Taxes can be justified for things like defence and some forms of public infrastucture that cannot easily be provided otherwise. The things that student stirrers want to have funded by compulsory fees do not fit into that category.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Democracy&#8221; on campus is dominated by interest groups that generally do not serve the interests of the majority of students.</p>
<p>The analogy with taxes does not hold up. Taxes can be justified for things like defence and some forms of public infrastucture that cannot easily be provided otherwise. The things that student stirrers want to have funded by compulsory fees do not fit into that category.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/08/06/interview-with-rick-kuhn/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skepticlawyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This guy trusts government WAY too much. Why is it, if a service is delivered by private enterprise, it is malign? And why, when delivered by government, does it mysteriously become benign?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy trusts government WAY too much. Why is it, if a service is delivered by private enterprise, it is malign? And why, when delivered by government, does it mysteriously become benign?</p>
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