Comments on: Shock + horror

By: Club Troppo » Hayek’s Utopia

Club Troppo » Hayek’s Utopia — Fri, 04 May 2007 04:51:06 +0000

[...] housed freedom." In some moods Hayek does seem to be a conservative liberal. But in others his anti-democratic liberalism seems far more [...]

By: Club Troppo » Collateral damage in the war of ideas

Club Troppo » Collateral damage in the war of ideas — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:02:55 +0000

[...] In Australia the Centre for Independent Studies imported this harsh rhetoric into Australia with a 2000 monograph on ‘behavioural poverty’ by Lucy Sullivan. [...]

By: John Humphreys

John Humphreys — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:54:58 +0000

No drama Nick and apology not necessary. I think you might remember typing it at catallaxy where there was a similar discussion.

By: Nicholas Gruen

Nicholas Gruen — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:15:19 +0000

John, I thought I did say that I missed your comment mentioning Hayek. I actually remember typing it into the relevant window, but somehow it didn’t end up finding it’s way onto the page. Sorry anyway.

By: John Quiggin » Friedman, Hayek and the epigones

John Quiggin » Friedman, Hayek and the epigones — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 12:27:18 +0000

[...] On the former point, it’s interesting to read this thread, where a string of local libertarians line up in opposition to democracy, disappointing the original poster Sukrit Sabhlok who had hoped the whole thing was a “shock+horror” misrepresentation. Some relevant quotes the idea that people who live from government money should be restricted from voting doesn’t offend me any more than restricting the democratic rights of criminals Democracy is just the tyranny of the majority. women’s suffrage led to the welfare/nanny state. [...]

By: Jason Soon

Jason Soon — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:34:20 +0000

Yes what John said.
As I explained in my comment above, most people just took up where the debate had gone and didn’t bother reading the quotes in full, so the ‘male’ bit had simply evaded notice.

You are such a sanctimonous prig, Nick, assuming you’re more moral than everyone else. This is what I mean by ‘holier than thou’. Perhaps you would have been comfortable in the Red Guards making and extracting public confessions?

By: John Humphreys

John Humphreys — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:27:46 +0000

Nick, you still haven’t noticed my comment? I think that most people took it as given that women should have the vote and so didn’t bother defending the idea.

The more interesting points were perhaps (1) the context in which Hayek made the remarks; and (2) some of the other limitations such as welfare-recipients and public servants.

By: Nicholas Gruen

Nicholas Gruen — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:11:45 +0000

Beats me what’s “holier than thou” about my comment. I was amazed and remain amazed.

By: terje (say tay-a)

terje (say tay-a) — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:06:13 +0000

JQ,

I agree that if Universities were privatised it would be best to find a model other than a company structure in the traditional corporate sence. I think it would be great if there was more discourse on the different vehicles for privatisation in general.

Regards,
Terje.

By: skepticlawyer

skepticlawyer — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 21:53:47 +0000

JQ, you may have to come across to the Catallaxy thread, which is here.