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	<title>Comments on: GW skeptics, alarmists &amp; denialists</title>
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		<title>By: graemebird</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[graemebird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If they are right then the evidence should speak clearly.&quot;

Well there&#039;s your answer right there.

They are wrong and they have to spin it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If they are right then the evidence should speak clearly.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well there&#8217;s your answer right there.</p>
<p>They are wrong and they have to spin it.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 09:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question 
I have noted that Terje and John Humphries in particular have contributed to various other blogs - mostly run by a guy called Quiggin and another called Lambert. 
These blogs are characterised by the most extraordianary invective and ridicule from various pro AGW folk with responses from you guys that are very civil. 
How do you deal with it?
What motivates those who speak with such certainty to be so graceless and humourless?
If they are right then the evidence should speak clearly. 
Given the range of projected increase in temperature from AGW to be 0.6 to 7 C - what on earth drives these folk to such verbal violence?
I am still learning alot wrt to GW and am of no political persuasion - but if I was in the same room as Lambert or Rabett and a number of others I would find it very hard to contain myself. 
That is what I mean by anger management. 
I will have to bow out. 
John H is an economist - I didn&#039;t know this. I failed high school economics - but I believe I have a considerable degree of insight into health economics. 
I will work on a summary of my understanding of this and leave the AGW debate alone in the meantime. 
I wish you all a merry Xmas etc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question<br />
I have noted that Terje and John Humphries in particular have contributed to various other blogs &#8211; mostly run by a guy called Quiggin and another called Lambert.<br />
These blogs are characterised by the most extraordianary invective and ridicule from various pro AGW folk with responses from you guys that are very civil.<br />
How do you deal with it?<br />
What motivates those who speak with such certainty to be so graceless and humourless?<br />
If they are right then the evidence should speak clearly.<br />
Given the range of projected increase in temperature from AGW to be 0.6 to 7 C &#8211; what on earth drives these folk to such verbal violence?<br />
I am still learning alot wrt to GW and am of no political persuasion &#8211; but if I was in the same room as Lambert or Rabett and a number of others I would find it very hard to contain myself.<br />
That is what I mean by anger management.<br />
I will have to bow out.<br />
John H is an economist &#8211; I didn&#8217;t know this. I failed high school economics &#8211; but I believe I have a considerable degree of insight into health economics.<br />
I will work on a summary of my understanding of this and leave the AGW debate alone in the meantime.<br />
I wish you all a merry Xmas etc</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve tried lefty bashing amongst other therapies - it worked for a while but the I discovered that our right wing politicos were just as f......g stupid. I&#039;ve alienated just about every politician in the country with salvos of hostile E-mails. 
Re health economics - it is a fascintaing area - and unlike global warming - I understand  it very well - in fact better than the vast majority. 
 I was going to stitch to gether an article for one of our News papers on the issue. 
I will try and bash out a synopsis for you over the next few days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tried lefty bashing amongst other therapies &#8211; it worked for a while but the I discovered that our right wing politicos were just as f&#8230;&#8230;g stupid. I&#8217;ve alienated just about every politician in the country with salvos of hostile E-mails.<br />
Re health economics &#8211; it is a fascintaing area &#8211; and unlike global warming &#8211; I understand  it very well &#8211; in fact better than the vast majority.<br />
 I was going to stitch to gether an article for one of our News papers on the issue.<br />
I will try and bash out a synopsis for you over the next few days.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2376</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a serious note
I would be great if you could do a post on medicine economics or as you see it at the coal face. I&#039;m sure JH would only be too happy to post it . we talk about it frequently but never seen a  doc actaully give his side of the story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a serious note<br />
I would be great if you could do a post on medicine economics or as you see it at the coal face. I&#8217;m sure JH would only be too happy to post it . we talk about it frequently but never seen a  doc actaully give his side of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Jc</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have anger problems too, Andrew. But since the web, i have been able to project it onto lefties who were born to act as human punching bags.
It&#039;s fun, it a good tension realease and when your stressed out you feel a lot better for it. Low blood, pressure and low LDL.

I highly recommend lefty bashing to anyone with tension or anger managment problems. My wife says it has done me a lot of good. I intend to persue this &quot;exercise&quot; regimen to the end of my days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have anger problems too, Andrew. But since the web, i have been able to project it onto lefties who were born to act as human punching bags.<br />
It&#8217;s fun, it a good tension realease and when your stressed out you feel a lot better for it. Low blood, pressure and low LDL.</p>
<p>I highly recommend lefty bashing to anyone with tension or anger managment problems. My wife says it has done me a lot of good. I intend to persue this &#8220;exercise&#8221; regimen to the end of my days.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Graemebird

In case you misunderstood me I should make it clear that I have no malice toward you whatever.
Nobody has called me a girly man before - my oldest  brother who died of CJD last year was a transexual. 
I understand your anger re the left wing greeny mob but the way to deal with it is via the mind.  
If you were to visit my home you would find the walls full of holes created by me. 
I have spent the last 5 years learning martial arts from a Vietnam veteran in an attempt to contain an anger problem which has been compounded by other factors which I cannot disclose. I have never acted violently to any human being - except verbally. 
I am 50 yo with 4 children and not proud of any of this. 
If you were in the same situation you would do anything you could to try and deal with the problem. 
I try everything - including pschotherapy. 
I have certainly destroyed alot of relationships with my tongue - but it has just F......d me up. I wouldn&#039;t wish my disposition upon my worst enemy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Graemebird</p>
<p>In case you misunderstood me I should make it clear that I have no malice toward you whatever.<br />
Nobody has called me a girly man before &#8211; my oldest  brother who died of CJD last year was a transexual.<br />
I understand your anger re the left wing greeny mob but the way to deal with it is via the mind.<br />
If you were to visit my home you would find the walls full of holes created by me.<br />
I have spent the last 5 years learning martial arts from a Vietnam veteran in an attempt to contain an anger problem which has been compounded by other factors which I cannot disclose. I have never acted violently to any human being &#8211; except verbally.<br />
I am 50 yo with 4 children and not proud of any of this.<br />
If you were in the same situation you would do anything you could to try and deal with the problem.<br />
I try everything &#8211; including pschotherapy.<br />
I have certainly destroyed alot of relationships with my tongue &#8211; but it has just F&#8230;&#8230;d me up. I wouldn&#8217;t wish my disposition upon my worst enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2352</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am relatively wealthy (financially) 
Unfortunately the brain went astray - so the other kind of wealth I find a bit elusive. 
I agree re the old girl - but she&#039;s not happy unless she&#039;s worried - or had a few gins. 
The Greens in New Zealand are a strange lot. 
Some of their goals are reasonable, but unfortunately most have had a frontal lobe bypass and seem incapable of logical reasoning.
Not that logic is the b all and end all - but its a lot handier to be able to think logically and clearly when faced with problems than the alternative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am relatively wealthy (financially)<br />
Unfortunately the brain went astray &#8211; so the other kind of wealth I find a bit elusive.<br />
I agree re the old girl &#8211; but she&#8217;s not happy unless she&#8217;s worried &#8211; or had a few gins.<br />
The Greens in New Zealand are a strange lot.<br />
Some of their goals are reasonable, but unfortunately most have had a frontal lobe bypass and seem incapable of logical reasoning.<br />
Not that logic is the b all and end all &#8211; but its a lot handier to be able to think logically and clearly when faced with problems than the alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hill</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;And an unbalanced pursuit of wealth can compromise many aspects of a persons well being. &quot;

Yet if they were born into wealth, they would not have this problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And an unbalanced pursuit of wealth can compromise many aspects of a persons well being. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yet if they were born into wealth, they would not have this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2346</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew

May she live to 120, but why is your 79 yld ma worrying about AGW?

This is another example of the Greens scaring the shit out of old ladies and kids. These guys come out of horror movie set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew</p>
<p>May she live to 120, but why is your 79 yld ma worrying about AGW?</p>
<p>This is another example of the Greens scaring the shit out of old ladies and kids. These guys come out of horror movie set.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2006/12/04/gw-skeptics-alarmists-denialists/#comment-2331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well put Terje]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put Terje</p>
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