Check out “The real cuba” on google to refute Jake’s idiocy.

“Communism and such models are a failure. Just look at Cuba”

Yes.

http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm

Go take your ridiculous reptilian Jew baiting elsewhere.

So the fact that this state survived that, despite being cut off from the biggest consumer in the world who happened to be their nearest neighbour – and that people would ignore that when caring to debate about Cuba? How can you call yourself serious if you ignore that element of what would therefore be an interesting debate?

Do none of you understand what I am talking about?
People say, “Communism and such models are a failure. Just look at Cuba”? – But Cuba is still even today being blocked from trading with the US and yet they sruvived all that tyranny and trechery? You see if you get your head out of your asses we could have very interesting debates here.

If you look back over the comments you will see that I never objected to the article by Tex or even the tone of the article. Mostly I was telling Slim that getting upset at Tex was an over reaction. My recent comments were a result of an emergent topic (ie the virtue of bad manners and how to persuade people). And yes I’m sure Tex could be more convincing if he wanted to influence a wider audience.

Regards,
Terje.

Oh yes, I could do a hundred posts on Fidel’s workers paradise without breaking a sweat, but I thought the fact that one of our public tax leeches is pushing this stuff was of particular interest to Oz libertarians.

DS & Terje — I agree that our path to our beliefs are dictated by many things. When/if Tex wanted to be more convincing I’m sure he could be but this post was aimed at libertarians and was a longer version of “hey guys… check this out… isn’t it a crap state of affairs”.

The idea that all you need is logic is completed contradicted by the history of ideas. Here is a perfect example. Ludwig Boltzmann, the thermodynamics whiz, was a soft spoken quiet man who revolutionised our understanding of thermodynamics. Trying to defend his ideas at a conference he was shouted down. Tragically he died just months before his ideas were experimentally proven. If he had a bulldog like Darwin, he would have won the day. Indeed, one wonders how successful Darwin’s ideas would have been if not for Huxley because many people had posited evolution long before Darwin but they did not have their bulldog.

As Terje has stated we come to our beliefs through a variety of causes and logic and is only one of these. We are not Spocks and anyone who thinks that they are the rational ones and those over there aren’t the rational ones might be well served by reading Carl Jung’s “The Undiscovered Self”. People still have this tendency to perceive rationality and logic as being “out there” as some objective measure. The history of science makes a complete lie of that. In fact such a stance is epistemological dualism, a relic from the age of reason so deeply embedded in our culture that we are often barely conscious of it. It’s even evident when people start talking about the “logical part” of the brain and the “emotional part”. Ha. Such stupid nonsense.

You think my post was “designed merely to give offence”?

No. I was responding to this:-

People who endorse totalitarian regimes don’t deserve good manners.

You think my post was “designed merely to give offence”?