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One Step Forward, Two Steps Back

Cato Institute fellow Daniel Mitchell has a piece here comparing the Bush presidency unfavourably to the Clinton presidency. I won’t quote the article because it is a detailed piece that deserves to be read in full.

It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the Bush presidency has been an unmitigated disaster for libertarianism in America. Whatever one’s views on Iraq, it certainly didn’t represent a philosophy of decreasing the level of state power. About the only positive thing on the Bush Jr. record, from a libertarian point of view, is the tax cuts. Unfortunately the cuts were fuelled by enormous budget deficits and a looming fiscal crisis thanks to Social Security.

The article makes the point that Clinton’s record would have been a lot worse had he not had to deal with a hostile Congress. If I were a betting man, which I am, my money would be on either Obama or Clinton to capture the White House in 2008. With Democrats in charge of Congress, we are unlikely to see things get any better from a fiscal point of view. At least the social conservatives might get squashed back into the hole from whence they came.

Speaking of the ascendancy of the Democrats, does anyone have links to any of the myriad articles and posts I remember reading from a couple of years ago about how the Democrats were a hollow shell of a party on the verge of catastrophic collapse? I’ve been Googling, but so far without success.

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March 19, 2007 - Posted by | International, Politics

11 Comments

  1. Tax revenues have not declined in the USA even after the Bush cuts to tax rates. As such it is silly to blame tax rate cuts for budget deficits. If revenues have risen then budget deficits should be blamed on excessive spending. Which brings us back to Iraq.

    Comment by terje (say tay-a) | March 19, 2007

  2. Reminds me of Mrs. Thatcher. She campaigned on lowering taxes and reducing the state, but all her good intentions seem to have been for nought. Even if we credit Mr Bush with the best of intentions, the growth of the government seems inexorable. Maybe there is a natural law, that governments can only grow, not shrink.

    Comment by nicholas gray | March 19, 2007

  3. From Mark McMullen, a senior economist at Moody’s Economy.com as reported in the Christian Science Monitor:

    When Bush took office in 2001, the CBO was forecasting a decade of budget surpluses totaling more than $5 trillion. Then came a recession, the terrorist attacks of 9/11, and enormous wartime spending. The Bush tax cuts helped to stimulate the economy, but at the cost of lower tax revenue.

    We had three years where revenues went down,” says Mr. Horney. “All that has happened is that we have … caught up from the really bad decline that we had.”

    Comment by Trinifar | March 19, 2007

  4. Terje, fair point. I should have said that tax cuts are worse than useless if you don’t cut government spending to match. Big government built on big tax is better than big government built on borrowing money.

    Comment by chrisjv | March 20, 2007

  5. Even that is debatable, I suppose. I should refrain from general pronouncements completely and just say that without addressing the fundamental government spending problems, the Bush tax cuts look a lot to me like rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.

    Comment by chrisjv | March 20, 2007

  6. I’d prefer to have an indebted government rather than a high taxing government. That way it is the bankers problem rather than our problem. And even if it means higher taxes later on I’d rather be exploited next week rather than this week.

    Trinifar – your article contradicts other pieces I have read from the CBO. But I’ll seek to get the details before I comment further.

    Comment by terje (say tay-a) | March 20, 2007

  7. chrisjv,

    i would disagree. if a large government is in, what could be seen as a sustainable position of having enough tax revenue to cover its costs then it will be in a much better position to stay large or get even larger, whereas if it is based on borrowing then the government will be faced with either increasing taxes which isn’t very popular politically, or decreasing the size of government.

    Comment by rowan | March 21, 2007

  8. There isn’t any empirical evidence that a bad economic position makes a country less inclined to accept socialist policies. The opposite, if anything. While it’s true that increasing taxes is unpopular, it must be less unpopular than cutting services, otherwise we wouldn’t have the problem of big government in the first place. Governments usually combat the unpopularity of tax by levying it on minorities – corporations and the wealthy.

    Comment by chrisjv | March 22, 2007

  9. chrisjv,

    is there any emperical evidence either way? I also think i distinction needs to be drawn between a government in a bad economic position and a country in a bad economic position.

    Perhaps a government would eb less likely to cut services as much as just trimming down and making a few efficiency improvements.

    Although i’m not sure i fully agree, you do have a point about the unpopularity of cutting services. that said, both tax increases and service cuts can be redily disguised in a major restructure.

    Comment by rowan | March 22, 2007

  10. [...] ChrisV at the Australian Libertarian Society blog discusses a recent Cato Institute piece that compares the Bush presidency unfavourably with the Clinton presidency. His verdict? It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the Bush presidency has been an unmitigated disaster for libertarianism in America. Whatever one’s views on Iraq, it certainly didn’t represent a philosophy of decreasing the level of state power. About the only positive thing on the Bush Jr. record, from a libertarian point of view, is the tax cuts. Unfortunately the cuts were fuelled by enormous budget deficits and a looming fiscal crisis thanks to Social Security. [...]

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  11. Trinifar – the following data suggests that revenue declined in only two recent years (2002 & 2003) and then rebounded strongly.

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/histab18.xls

    If you adjusted for inflation then maybe it would be fair to say that revenues declined in three years (as your quote indicated). However none of this takes away from my point. Tax revenues now are much stronger than they were in any earlier year. Tax rate cuts have not caused any sustained decline in revenue.

    Comment by Terje | March 22, 2007


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