Comments on: Not-so-free speech in Finland http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/ Australian Libertarian Society Blog Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:45:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: The PRODOS blog » Blog Archive » Announcement: Mikko Ellila blog in breach and to be disabled http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-21414 Sat, 14 Jul 2007 05:24:35 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-21414 [...] Thoughts on Freeedom [...]

]]> By: The PRODOS blog » Blog Archive » My comprehensive assessment of Mikko Ellila article, Society Consists of People http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-17997 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:44:11 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-17997 [...] Thoughts on Freeedom [...]

]]> By: The PRODOS blog » Blog Archive » Mikko Ellila provides authorised English translation of Society Consists of People http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-17811 Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:42:31 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-17811 [...] Thoughts on Freeedom [...]

]]> By: The PRODOS blog » Blog Archive » Mikko Ellila - Aapo Puhakka’s English translation confirmed as quite accurate http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-11717 Tue, 15 May 2007 13:39:37 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-11717 [...] Thoughts on Freeedom [...]

]]> By: The PRODOS blog » Blog Archive » Part 1: A careful examination of Mikko Ellila’s article, Society Consists of People http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-11530 Sun, 13 May 2007 16:01:19 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-11530 [...] Thoughts on Freeedom [...]

]]> By: nicholas gray http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10321 Mon, 07 May 2007 00:33:09 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10321 Oh, john, your quotes prove my point- The Law (the five books attributed to Moses) and the Prophets are not the same as Tobbit or Maccabees.
As an Esoteric Christian, I have always assumed that the Bible was an evolving document, with more refined understanding coming later and later.
As an esoteric Christian, I also accept evolution, and assume that Adam was the first of the Semitic races, and that it was his duty, and that of his descendents, to give the rest of the world the Law. Thus Cain married a non-Adamite, and Adam might even have had children with women other than Eve! Thus the big deal in Genesis over Adam having a son ‘in his own image’- his own race. Lilith would have been a real human wife, not a demonic concubine.
Thus the flood would have been literal, but almost wiping out the Adamite bloodline- clues tell you that some parts of the planet stayed dry, even if it seemed like the whole earth to the survivors (why did the dove disappear, unless she had found trees and food, and other doves? And some of Noah’s contemporaries are called ‘Father of those who work in metal’ etc. If they’re going to be wiped out in the Flood, why even mention them?)
Therefore, whilst the first chapter of Genesis is something to treat as symbols, with days standing for aeons, the rest could be literal, but confined to one bloodline.

]]> By: The PRODOS blog » Blog Archive » Mikko Ellila - English translation of article and charges plus my criticisma of Mikko while still defending his right to free speech http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10293 Sun, 06 May 2007 15:21:08 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10293 [...] I got both these texts from Laiva On Taynna via a link from Thoughts on Freedom, The Official Blog of the Australian Libertarian Society. [...]

]]> By: terje (say tay-a) http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10088 Fri, 04 May 2007 07:40:54 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10088 John & Pommy – you have email.

]]> By: Brendan Halfweeg http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10086 Fri, 04 May 2007 07:13:59 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10086 The Protestant Reformation was a direct challenge by Luther in his 95 Thesis as a call to return to the Bible’s teachings. It was a protest specifically against selling of indulgences which had corrupted the Church. I do not think Luther intended to get himself excommunicated, he did not want a schism within the Catholic Church, he wanted to re-form it, rather than introduce new ideas (reform it). The fact that the Reformation led to the Counter Reformation is exactly what Luther intended. Strangely enough the English King Henry VIII was in fact in support of the Pope during the initial Reformation and held the title Defender of the Faith when he created the Church of England, a title claimed by English monarchs to this day.

]]> By: John Humphreys http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10084 Fri, 04 May 2007 06:40:34 +0000 http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/03/not-so-free-speech-in-finland/#comment-10084 I arrive in Sydney next Thursday (10 May) and will probably be around for a few days before catching another flight back to Queensland. If you’re free, I’ll see you then.

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