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		<title>By: ALS poll: best libertarian blog &#171; Thoughts on Freedom</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-49173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ALS poll: best libertarian blog &#171; Thoughts on Freedom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the time it was &#8220;best solo libertarian blogger&#8221;, after after much vote-rigging it was eventually won by the self-described &#8220;classical liberal&#8221; Andrew [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the time it was &#8220;best solo libertarian blogger&#8221;, after after much vote-rigging it was eventually won by the self-described &#8220;classical liberal&#8221; Andrew [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Monday's Missing Link on Tuesday - Again</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-15320</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Club Troppo &#187; Monday's Missing Link on Tuesday - Again]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] poll is also announced, and it&#8217;s Andrew Norton. The ALS blog follows up with a new poll on voting intentions at the federal election. Amusing fallout from the libertarian blogger poll continues at Andrew Norton and Catallaxy. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] poll is also announced, and it&#8217;s Andrew Norton. The ALS blog follows up with a new poll on voting intentions at the federal election. Amusing fallout from the libertarian blogger poll continues at Andrew Norton and Catallaxy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas gray</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-14794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicholas gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last I heard of the Progress Party was in 2001, when I visited a house in Sylvania Heights, a Doctor&#039;s residence where they printed pamphlets, and gave out a copy of an american paper, which i think was called &#039;The Libertarian&#039;. They didn&#039;t seem to have much of a program by then, they just seemed to have a lot of anti-this and anti-that statements.
Still, whilst they now seem to have disappeared, I feature that house in my not-yet-finished book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last I heard of the Progress Party was in 2001, when I visited a house in Sylvania Heights, a Doctor&#8217;s residence where they printed pamphlets, and gave out a copy of an american paper, which i think was called &#8216;The Libertarian&#8217;. They didn&#8217;t seem to have much of a program by then, they just seemed to have a lot of anti-this and anti-that statements.<br />
Still, whilst they now seem to have disappeared, I feature that house in my not-yet-finished book.</p>
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		<title>By: John Humphreys</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-14654</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Humphreys]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 15:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim -- the 1-2% prediction is for the NSW Senate. I&#039;m sure we will do better than that in many House of Reps seats. I hope our vote will be competitive with the Democrats, Pauline and Family First... which would make us an important part of the political landscape. We can build from there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim &#8212; the 1-2% prediction is for the NSW Senate. I&#8217;m sure we will do better than that in many House of Reps seats. I hope our vote will be competitive with the Democrats, Pauline and Family First&#8230; which would make us an important part of the political landscape. We can build from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fryar</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-14615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Fryar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John.
The reason for post 16 was that I felt we were being a little pessimistic about our chances, given that at the next election we can expect a lot of Liberals to be looking for somewhere to go.

You young nippers are probably too young to remember Old Bob Katter, and the Nationals under Joh, - more a cult than a political party. It was difficult and sometimes hostile territory. The biggest thing we had going for us was that the regional papers more readily print press releases from minor parties, something we can probably still use.

Are you sure that we can&#039;t do better?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John.<br />
The reason for post 16 was that I felt we were being a little pessimistic about our chances, given that at the next election we can expect a lot of Liberals to be looking for somewhere to go.</p>
<p>You young nippers are probably too young to remember Old Bob Katter, and the Nationals under Joh, &#8211; more a cult than a political party. It was difficult and sometimes hostile territory. The biggest thing we had going for us was that the regional papers more readily print press releases from minor parties, something we can probably still use.</p>
<p>Are you sure that we can&#8217;t do better?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fryar</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-14589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Fryar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 11:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t awware of that John, but at about the time we folded I moved out into remote areas to work and pretty much lost contact completely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t awware of that John, but at about the time we folded I moved out into remote areas to work and pretty much lost contact completely.</p>
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		<title>By: John Humphreys</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-14586</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Humphreys]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The left-overs of the Progress Party still existed in the late 90s... and I got in touch with their coordinator (I can&#039;t remember his name). I received their newsletter for a little while until the party folded.

I kept in touch with John Zube for a while -- who was quite active in the Workers Party. He came to Canberra for one of our libertarian dinners and shared some of the material ans stories of old workers party campaigns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left-overs of the Progress Party still existed in the late 90s&#8230; and I got in touch with their coordinator (I can&#8217;t remember his name). I received their newsletter for a little while until the party folded.</p>
<p>I kept in touch with John Zube for a while &#8212; who was quite active in the Workers Party. He came to Canberra for one of our libertarian dinners and shared some of the material ans stories of old workers party campaigns.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fryar</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-14523</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Fryar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 05:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Jason.

The Progress Party formed out of the Workers Party after some sort of some sort of internal upheaval. I am not sure what it was about, but there was a lot of vitriol from the few who remained in the Workers Party. Singo was a founding member of the Progress Party.

I had been interested in the Workers Party but was persuaded to join the Nationals which was a bad mistake, as I soon realised that I had little in common with them. I resigned on the formation of the PP and joined it. I think that it was in the 77 state election Bill Runge achieved 10%+ of the vote in Gympie, and we had other high results as well.

Our main support came from Qld, NT, and WA, with NSW relevant but I can’t recall much activity from the other states. In Qld we were the main movers, with the National Executive based here, WA had some good people, but seemed to contribute mainly inspirational messages from Amway adds, while the Territory had a very active branch until two successive presidents were ruined by selective government action, after which the rest up there got the message.

When I worked in the territory I spoke to their president at the time, who told me to avoid making waves, as since he had adopted a lower profile, the Chief Minister, Porky Everingham would speak to him. We were supposed to meet, however he didn’t turn up, I think he read the paper and saw what I had said in it. I don’t hold it against them as they, not me were bearing the full brunt of state attempts to destroy them.

We folded a few years later, rather than accept that the Government had a right to register political parties. We refused to register and ceased to exist as a recognised party. We were probably in retrospect a little too idealistic for our own good.

Most members moved to other parties and I have lost touch with them, but I am still in contact with a couple of them;

Viv Forbes was National Secretary, and has a farm in the Brisbane Valley and remains a committed libertarian.

Ron Kitching we all know. A guy named Kelly Cromby and a couple of others are still around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Jason.</p>
<p>The Progress Party formed out of the Workers Party after some sort of some sort of internal upheaval. I am not sure what it was about, but there was a lot of vitriol from the few who remained in the Workers Party. Singo was a founding member of the Progress Party.</p>
<p>I had been interested in the Workers Party but was persuaded to join the Nationals which was a bad mistake, as I soon realised that I had little in common with them. I resigned on the formation of the PP and joined it. I think that it was in the 77 state election Bill Runge achieved 10%+ of the vote in Gympie, and we had other high results as well.</p>
<p>Our main support came from Qld, NT, and WA, with NSW relevant but I can’t recall much activity from the other states. In Qld we were the main movers, with the National Executive based here, WA had some good people, but seemed to contribute mainly inspirational messages from Amway adds, while the Territory had a very active branch until two successive presidents were ruined by selective government action, after which the rest up there got the message.</p>
<p>When I worked in the territory I spoke to their president at the time, who told me to avoid making waves, as since he had adopted a lower profile, the Chief Minister, Porky Everingham would speak to him. We were supposed to meet, however he didn’t turn up, I think he read the paper and saw what I had said in it. I don’t hold it against them as they, not me were bearing the full brunt of state attempts to destroy them.</p>
<p>We folded a few years later, rather than accept that the Government had a right to register political parties. We refused to register and ceased to exist as a recognised party. We were probably in retrospect a little too idealistic for our own good.</p>
<p>Most members moved to other parties and I have lost touch with them, but I am still in contact with a couple of them;</p>
<p>Viv Forbes was National Secretary, and has a farm in the Brisbane Valley and remains a committed libertarian.</p>
<p>Ron Kitching we all know. A guy named Kelly Cromby and a couple of others are still around.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Soon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Soon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim
You were in the Progress Party? I presume this is the remnant of Singleton&#039;s original Workers Party. Whatever happened to those guys anyway?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim<br />
You were in the Progress Party? I presume this is the remnant of Singleton&#8217;s original Workers Party. Whatever happened to those guys anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fryar</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2007/06/01/libertarian-blogs-federal-election/#comment-14457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Fryar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following is the result for the seat of Kennedy in 1980. The electorate was sick of the Frazer government at the time, and some of this would have have been a protest vote. Like now.

On a more positive note, it should be remembered that the Katter family have a dynastic hold on this seat, and the National Party was at the time very hard to displace in their homeland.

J.M.Fryar (PP)			2103 (3.7%)
S.L.Hadlow (ALP)		20194 (36.0%)
R.C.Katter (NCP)		33744 (60.2%)
Informal			1021
Estimated two-party preferred: NCP 63.1%, ALP 36.9%

I ran a pretty light campaign, as I couldn&#039;t be spared from my work at the time, and the electorate was about 5 hours drive away. 

The point I am making is that we can do it. There were no internet based comunications back then, so letters, press releases, etc were much slower.

I have to apologise for misinforming you in my Blogger Profile, It was Kennedy not Capricornia, and old Bob snuck in by about 31,000 votes. It was a fair while ago, and I lived in Capricornia at the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is the result for the seat of Kennedy in 1980. The electorate was sick of the Frazer government at the time, and some of this would have have been a protest vote. Like now.</p>
<p>On a more positive note, it should be remembered that the Katter family have a dynastic hold on this seat, and the National Party was at the time very hard to displace in their homeland.</p>
<p>J.M.Fryar (PP)			2103 (3.7%)<br />
S.L.Hadlow (ALP)		20194 (36.0%)<br />
R.C.Katter (NCP)		33744 (60.2%)<br />
Informal			1021<br />
Estimated two-party preferred: NCP 63.1%, ALP 36.9%</p>
<p>I ran a pretty light campaign, as I couldn&#8217;t be spared from my work at the time, and the electorate was about 5 hours drive away. </p>
<p>The point I am making is that we can do it. There were no internet based comunications back then, so letters, press releases, etc were much slower.</p>
<p>I have to apologise for misinforming you in my Blogger Profile, It was Kennedy not Capricornia, and old Bob snuck in by about 31,000 votes. It was a fair while ago, and I lived in Capricornia at the time.</p>
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