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		<title>By: TerjeP (say tay-a)</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45398</link>
		<dc:creator>TerjeP (say tay-a)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Until 2 years ago I had never met a libertarian. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s about the same timeframe for me. The Internet is certainly an enabler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Until 2 years ago I had never met a libertarian. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s about the same timeframe for me. The Internet is certainly an enabler.</p>
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		<title>By: Riley O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45381</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I am a 24 year old American Libertarian from Southern California.  I run the Libertarian Group on myspace and as part of the efforts to internationalize the group I have been seeking out libertarian organizations around the world.  There have been many common views in my forum over the years that Liberty is strictly an American game and I have made an effort to end this mindset.  Upon asking my international members to start subgroups I got a few responses but no Australian group (I now link to the LDP group).  Having friends in Australia I began to seek out Australian Libertarian Groups. A few years ago I found the Australian Libertarian Party but was unable to find contacts or any sort of discussion going on.  A while ago I found this group and started reading from time to time and have learned quite a bit about Australia and America as well.  Watching a near absence of the cult of the soldier, daily pledge of allegiances to the government for school children, a loser pays legal system, an anemic religious right and cops who don&#039;t act like organized criminals I started to see just how large scale these problems are here in America.  A common question that has come up in my group is America the ideal country for a future of liberty and if not where in the world should we look.  And that is a very tough question to answer but seeking other groups and learning more about other countries has helped considerably.</description>
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<p>I am a 24 year old American Libertarian from Southern California.  I run the Libertarian Group on myspace and as part of the efforts to internationalize the group I have been seeking out libertarian organizations around the world.  There have been many common views in my forum over the years that Liberty is strictly an American game and I have made an effort to end this mindset.  Upon asking my international members to start subgroups I got a few responses but no Australian group (I now link to the LDP group).  Having friends in Australia I began to seek out Australian Libertarian Groups. A few years ago I found the Australian Libertarian Party but was unable to find contacts or any sort of discussion going on.  A while ago I found this group and started reading from time to time and have learned quite a bit about Australia and America as well.  Watching a near absence of the cult of the soldier, daily pledge of allegiances to the government for school children, a loser pays legal system, an anemic religious right and cops who don&#8217;t act like organized criminals I started to see just how large scale these problems are here in America.  A common question that has come up in my group is America the ideal country for a future of liberty and if not where in the world should we look.  And that is a very tough question to answer but seeking other groups and learning more about other countries has helped considerably.</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas gray</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45336</link>
		<dc:creator>nicholas gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, Justin, have you thought that maybe a libertarian, or the L&amp;D party, could look into that very issue, and come up with a book that gives us minimal laws? Why wait until you get into government? People might just think this was another empty promise, but if you&#039;ve done it already, they&#039;ll look at you with new respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, Justin, have you thought that maybe a libertarian, or the L&amp;D party, could look into that very issue, and come up with a book that gives us minimal laws? Why wait until you get into government? People might just think this was another empty promise, but if you&#8217;ve done it already, they&#8217;ll look at you with new respect.</p>
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		<title>By: architectonic1</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45332</link>
		<dc:creator>architectonic1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pommygranate, I think you&#039;ll find that the internet is the catalyst...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pommygranate, I think you&#8217;ll find that the internet is the catalyst&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45310</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Good for you, Riley! How does one arrive at libertarianism so young, though? most of us had to go thru the torturous process of embracing socialism as students and then realising the awful truth. you must be smarter. :)&quot;

I used to call myself a &#039;liberal capitalist&#039; because I believe in liberty for people and government non-intervention in the economy. I never really identified as a libertarian until recently. The Rudd internet censorship tipped the boat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Good for you, Riley! How does one arrive at libertarianism so young, though? most of us had to go thru the torturous process of embracing socialism as students and then realising the awful truth. you must be smarter. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p>
<p>I used to call myself a &#8216;liberal capitalist&#8217; because I believe in liberty for people and government non-intervention in the economy. I never really identified as a libertarian until recently. The Rudd internet censorship tipped the boat.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Jefferson</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45308</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Even when politics gets brought up in casual conversation and someone whinges about the government not stepping in, I’ll usually just agree with them for convenience.&#039;

I always point out how dysfunctional, wasteful and abusive government is, and you know what, I almost always get general agreement - because let&#039;s face it, it&#039;s obvious. 

A lot of the support for government, or any value, depends not on reason and evidence, but on human orthodoxy. People look which way the wind is blowing before they decide to expose themselves to the possible disapproval of their fellow human beings. Over the last century the accepted thing has been to idolise the state, so that&#039;s what people do, almost without thinking. The main way the principles of liberty will spread will be the core like us, who name and shame the bullying and waste of government for what it is. People will follow you just to fit in, Winston. 

I&#039;m a 47 year-old libertarian. Until 7 years ago I had never  even heard the word. I used to call myself a &#039;Lockean&#039; LOL. Until 2 years ago I had never met a libertarian. But now the internet is bringing us all together, and I find that anti-establishmentarian skepticism of government is very widespread - far more than support for any major party, if only we know how to cultivate it. 

We don&#039;t need to persuade everyone. Just 10 or 20 percent of people to vote for the LDP would be all we need to get through great reforms in favour of liberty. 

My dream is for the day the LDP secures the passage of the &#039;Cleaning Out the Broomcupboard of State&#039; Act. This goes through the statute and case law books and abolishes any and every law that bears against the liberty of anyone and everyone to do what they want, on condition only that they are not aggressing against anyone. 

90 percent of our laws are abolished, and good riddance; a new understanding of non-violence, liberty and property as the basis of co-operations spreads among the peoples; and we all live happily ever after tra-laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Even when politics gets brought up in casual conversation and someone whinges about the government not stepping in, I’ll usually just agree with them for convenience.&#8217;</p>
<p>I always point out how dysfunctional, wasteful and abusive government is, and you know what, I almost always get general agreement &#8211; because let&#8217;s face it, it&#8217;s obvious. </p>
<p>A lot of the support for government, or any value, depends not on reason and evidence, but on human orthodoxy. People look which way the wind is blowing before they decide to expose themselves to the possible disapproval of their fellow human beings. Over the last century the accepted thing has been to idolise the state, so that&#8217;s what people do, almost without thinking. The main way the principles of liberty will spread will be the core like us, who name and shame the bullying and waste of government for what it is. People will follow you just to fit in, Winston. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a 47 year-old libertarian. Until 7 years ago I had never  even heard the word. I used to call myself a &#8216;Lockean&#8217; LOL. Until 2 years ago I had never met a libertarian. But now the internet is bringing us all together, and I find that anti-establishmentarian skepticism of government is very widespread &#8211; far more than support for any major party, if only we know how to cultivate it. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need to persuade everyone. Just 10 or 20 percent of people to vote for the LDP would be all we need to get through great reforms in favour of liberty. </p>
<p>My dream is for the day the LDP secures the passage of the &#8216;Cleaning Out the Broomcupboard of State&#8217; Act. This goes through the statute and case law books and abolishes any and every law that bears against the liberty of anyone and everyone to do what they want, on condition only that they are not aggressing against anyone. </p>
<p>90 percent of our laws are abolished, and good riddance; a new understanding of non-violence, liberty and property as the basis of co-operations spreads among the peoples; and we all live happily ever after tra-laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.</p>
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		<title>By: Yobbo</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45288</link>
		<dc:creator>Yobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually a fascist right-winger when I was a kid. That&#039;s what happens when you grow up in Wilson Tuckey&#039;s electorate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually a fascist right-winger when I was a kid. That&#8217;s what happens when you grow up in Wilson Tuckey&#8217;s electorate.</p>
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		<title>By: Winston O</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45229</link>
		<dc:creator>Winston O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 22, studying commerce and law in Canberra. Growing up in a lower-income safe Labor seat in Sydney, I was at one point quite sympathetic to leftist ideals, particularly the stock standard &#039;more spending on education and healthcare&#039; line. 

I become more convinced by the free market argument after doing introductory economics at uni. But I really became interested in the idea of non-intervention after doing a course on legal theory and studying Mill. 

I&#039;m not a flag waving freedom fighting libertarian though. I voted for the LDP, I read Cato and Reason but that&#039;s where it pretty much ends. Even when politics gets brought up in casual conversation and someone whinges about the government not stepping in, I&#039;ll usually just agree with them for convenience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 22, studying commerce and law in Canberra. Growing up in a lower-income safe Labor seat in Sydney, I was at one point quite sympathetic to leftist ideals, particularly the stock standard &#8216;more spending on education and healthcare&#8217; line. </p>
<p>I become more convinced by the free market argument after doing introductory economics at uni. But I really became interested in the idea of non-intervention after doing a course on legal theory and studying Mill. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a flag waving freedom fighting libertarian though. I voted for the LDP, I read Cato and Reason but that&#8217;s where it pretty much ends. Even when politics gets brought up in casual conversation and someone whinges about the government not stepping in, I&#8217;ll usually just agree with them for convenience.</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton Gale</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45226</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton Gale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Clinton, I&#039;m a part-time alcoholic (help me Rudd!) and moderate libertarian (piss off Rudd).
Came to be inspired by Rand, Locke, Hayek and so forth. At times fascist social-darwinist ideals such as cutting out the tongues of stupid people who talk too much (eg: Dr Phil, Oprah, Wil Anderson), punching people that stand in doorways and letting the weak die off appeal to me... but at the end of the day I see these childish whims conflicting with liberty which I see as a much more valuable asset to a well functioning society.
Done some music and electronics at TAFE, the later was so poorly organized the class size started at 25 students but reduced to 5 by the end of year. I also saw how the student union functions as a popularity contest crossed with the desire to get your hands a HUGE amount of cash to do with as you please. Considering do some formal education in economics next year.
Thanks to Thoughts on Freedom I came across the LDP which I regard as the best means of balancing Australia from a social democracy to a liberal democracy.
Thanks to &quot;Libertarian&quot; being an option on ya Facebook profile and current freedom of the interwebs, we should be able to hold off the slide into chronic statism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Clinton, I&#8217;m a part-time alcoholic (help me Rudd!) and moderate libertarian (piss off Rudd).<br />
Came to be inspired by Rand, Locke, Hayek and so forth. At times fascist social-darwinist ideals such as cutting out the tongues of stupid people who talk too much (eg: Dr Phil, Oprah, Wil Anderson), punching people that stand in doorways and letting the weak die off appeal to me&#8230; but at the end of the day I see these childish whims conflicting with liberty which I see as a much more valuable asset to a well functioning society.<br />
Done some music and electronics at TAFE, the later was so poorly organized the class size started at 25 students but reduced to 5 by the end of year. I also saw how the student union functions as a popularity contest crossed with the desire to get your hands a HUGE amount of cash to do with as you please. Considering do some formal education in economics next year.<br />
Thanks to Thoughts on Freedom I came across the LDP which I regard as the best means of balancing Australia from a social democracy to a liberal democracy.<br />
Thanks to &#8220;Libertarian&#8221; being an option on ya Facebook profile and current freedom of the interwebs, we should be able to hold off the slide into chronic statism.</p>
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		<title>By: TerjeP (say tay-a)</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/03/12/who-are-you/#comment-45211</link>
		<dc:creator>TerjeP (say tay-a)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeptic - your input is always welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeptic &#8211; your input is always welcome.</p>
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