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		<title>By: Sukrit Sabhlok</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/07/research-for-someone-else-to-do/#comment-47092</link>
		<dc:creator>Sukrit Sabhlok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 03:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I thought too, Mark. The basic theory is undeniable. No economist will disagree with the contention that beyond a point raising the minimum wage will cost jobs. They will just claim that point hasn&#039;t been reached yet, and that they know better than the market because they&#039;re smart and can make models that support their view. Clearly they haven&#039;t properly understood Hayek&#039;s essay on the uses of knowledge.

John Quiggin is a bad example to use though, as I don&#039;t think he&#039;s in the mainstream. I read a paper where he denied that the microeconomic reform of 1980s yielded much benefit - hardly worth it in his opinion. His work has been thoroughly debunked by the Productivity Commission, among others. If you asked other &#039;lefties&#039; like Paul Krugman or Andrew Leigh though, you&#039;d get the same answer as Milton Friedman. Which shows that economists do agree on the basics of the price system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I thought too, Mark. The basic theory is undeniable. No economist will disagree with the contention that beyond a point raising the minimum wage will cost jobs. They will just claim that point hasn&#8217;t been reached yet, and that they know better than the market because they&#8217;re smart and can make models that support their view. Clearly they haven&#8217;t properly understood Hayek&#8217;s essay on the uses of knowledge.</p>
<p>John Quiggin is a bad example to use though, as I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s in the mainstream. I read a paper where he denied that the microeconomic reform of 1980s yielded much benefit &#8211; hardly worth it in his opinion. His work has been thoroughly debunked by the Productivity Commission, among others. If you asked other &#8216;lefties&#8217; like Paul Krugman or Andrew Leigh though, you&#8217;d get the same answer as Milton Friedman. Which shows that economists do agree on the basics of the price system.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hill</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/07/research-for-someone-else-to-do/#comment-47086</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 02:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quiggin said the Work Choices Senate inquiry, that he wasn&#039;t speaking as an economist. 

So yes even social democrats like him acknowledge the facts. They just have strong preferences and think the tradeoff is worth it. They are wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quiggin said the Work Choices Senate inquiry, that he wasn&#8217;t speaking as an economist. </p>
<p>So yes even social democrats like him acknowledge the facts. They just have strong preferences and think the tradeoff is worth it. They are wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Halfweeg</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/07/research-for-someone-else-to-do/#comment-47065</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Halfweeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sukrit,

I&#039;m not sure - there seems to be plenty of economists who support minimum wage legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sukrit,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure &#8211; there seems to be plenty of economists who support minimum wage legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: Sukrit Sabhlok</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/07/research-for-someone-else-to-do/#comment-47058</link>
		<dc:creator>Sukrit Sabhlok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sowell&#039;s book is very good for laypeople like me. Every economist should also read it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I wouldn’t agree with you there when it comes to price controls of labour rates.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn&#039;t every economist agree with the theory in principle? If you asked an economist if a minimum wage of $1000 an hour would cost jobs given current economic conditions and they said no, wouldn&#039;t he/she be laughed off the stage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sowell&#8217;s book is very good for laypeople like me. Every economist should also read it.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>I wouldn’t agree with you there when it comes to price controls of labour rates.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t every economist agree with the theory in principle? If you asked an economist if a minimum wage of $1000 an hour would cost jobs given current economic conditions and they said no, wouldn&#8217;t he/she be laughed off the stage?</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Halfweeg</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/07/research-for-someone-else-to-do/#comment-47057</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Halfweeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Given that most economists — whatever their ideological disposition — agree that price controls are a bad thing&lt;/i&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t agree with you there when it comes to price controls of labour rates.  THe same argument can be made - the minimum wage is artificially raised such that labour supply increases beyond employers&#039; need for labour at that rate - hence unemployment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Given that most economists — whatever their ideological disposition — agree that price controls are a bad thing</i></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t agree with you there when it comes to price controls of labour rates.  THe same argument can be made &#8211; the minimum wage is artificially raised such that labour supply increases beyond employers&#8217; need for labour at that rate &#8211; hence unemployment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim R</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/07/research-for-someone-else-to-do/#comment-47051</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 03:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just about to buy the Sowell book.  Any thoughts on the book as a whole?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just about to buy the Sowell book.  Any thoughts on the book as a whole?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidLeyonhjelm</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/07/research-for-someone-else-to-do/#comment-47042</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidLeyonhjelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s something similar in NSW too. From memory it mostly catches boarding houses. 

I would have thought an impecunious law undergraduate would have plenty of time to investigate something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s something similar in NSW too. From memory it mostly catches boarding houses. </p>
<p>I would have thought an impecunious law undergraduate would have plenty of time to investigate something like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fryar</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/07/research-for-someone-else-to-do/#comment-47037</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Fryar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t aware that it still existed. When I was in my teens I remember horror stories of tenants who were protected under some of these laws to the point that they were still paying the same rents that had been agreed on 20 years before, and were protected from any increase.

There was no way they could be removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that it still existed. When I was in my teens I remember horror stories of tenants who were protected under some of these laws to the point that they were still paying the same rents that had been agreed on 20 years before, and were protected from any increase.</p>
<p>There was no way they could be removed.</p>
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