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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-50134</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] criticises the critics of the most recent marijuana decriminalisation [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: nanny taxes</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-48032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nanny taxes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 06:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] MIranda and Bolty aren??t. Guys - where??s the consistency in your arguments? So as a reminder, ...http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/Nanny Knows Best: Killer Vegetables Sometimes when I read nanny Knows Best, I can&#039;t decide whether [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] MIranda and Bolty aren??t. Guys &#8211; where??s the consistency in your arguments? So as a reminder, &#8230;<a href="http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/Nanny" rel="nofollow">http://alsblog.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/Nanny</a> Knows Best: Killer Vegetables Sometimes when I read nanny Knows Best, I can&#8217;t decide whether [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas gray</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-47128</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicholas gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 10:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An amusing thought just came to me, and it might make a good story. We should get the government to heavily promote any and all drugs, so that kids will hate taking them, and believe that the way to rebel is to take nothing, and ignore the government&#039;s campaigns! Problem solved! You&#039;ll always get the neurotic conformers who will take drugs, because the government says so, but we&#039;ll all benefit when they take all those substances, and remove themselves from the gene pool!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An amusing thought just came to me, and it might make a good story. We should get the government to heavily promote any and all drugs, so that kids will hate taking them, and believe that the way to rebel is to take nothing, and ignore the government&#8217;s campaigns! Problem solved! You&#8217;ll always get the neurotic conformers who will take drugs, because the government says so, but we&#8217;ll all benefit when they take all those substances, and remove themselves from the gene pool!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-47123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are in favour of your children being able to obtain drugs then by all means be in favour of drug prohibition. When I was 14 I was able to buy pot (and any other prohibited narcotic I wanted) but I was not able to buy booze. This is because outlawed drugs do not go away, they just go underground to be sold by people who do not care about things like quality or the fact that their punter is underaged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are in favour of your children being able to obtain drugs then by all means be in favour of drug prohibition. When I was 14 I was able to buy pot (and any other prohibited narcotic I wanted) but I was not able to buy booze. This is because outlawed drugs do not go away, they just go underground to be sold by people who do not care about things like quality or the fact that their punter is underaged.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hill</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-47119</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 04:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I reckon performance enhancers make a difference to &quot;pure&quot; athletics, but not to sports. 

Nandralone won&#039;t make you bend it like Becks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon performance enhancers make a difference to &#8220;pure&#8221; athletics, but not to sports. </p>
<p>Nandralone won&#8217;t make you bend it like Becks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hasenkam</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-47118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Hasenkam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fleeced,

If they did actually stop all drug abuse by athletes the Olympics would die. Performancing enhancing drugs simply make that much difference. 

So role on the Free for All Olympics, it actually represents the future of medicine and possibly not that far away. Specific medicating tailored to individual metabolisms. Very promising. The druggie Olympians can provide very valuable data on *humans* about the drugs, the Olympics will improve, and we will open up a new avenue for improving our understanding of human biology. There are no losers here dude.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fleeced,</p>
<p>If they did actually stop all drug abuse by athletes the Olympics would die. Performancing enhancing drugs simply make that much difference. </p>
<p>So role on the Free for All Olympics, it actually represents the future of medicine and possibly not that far away. Specific medicating tailored to individual metabolisms. Very promising. The druggie Olympians can provide very valuable data on *humans* about the drugs, the Olympics will improve, and we will open up a new avenue for improving our understanding of human biology. There are no losers here dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Grace</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-47117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 02:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry Clark asked in his article &quot;Where is the evidence that cannabis smoking is unlinked to lung cancer, emphesima (sic) etc?.  Now at post 5 HC raises this issue again.   HC you must have misssed my reply. 

&quot;In February 124,000 doctors from the American College of Physicians, the second largest group of doctors in the US released a statement informing the world &quot;Mainstream Medicine Endorses Medical Marijuana.&quot; 



The ACP position paper demolishes several myths, starting with the notion still proclaimed by some politicians that marijuana is unsafe for medical use. The College notes that the most serious objection to medical marijuana -- potential harm to the lungs from smoking -- has largely been solved by a technology called vaporization, already proven in scientific studies.

The ACP position paper also explains that there is no reason to believe that protecting medical marijuana patients leads to increased drug abuse. &quot;Marijuana has not been proven to be the cause or even the most significant predictor of serious drug abuse,&quot; the doctors write. &quot;Opiates are highly addictive, yet medically effective ... There is no evidence to suggest that medical use of opiates has increased perception that their illicit use is safe or acceptable.&quot;

Quoted from PR.Canna Zine website  for full article.


Harry please check your facts!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Clark asked in his article &#8220;Where is the evidence that cannabis smoking is unlinked to lung cancer, emphesima (sic) etc?.  Now at post 5 HC raises this issue again.   HC you must have misssed my reply. </p>
<p>&#8220;In February 124,000 doctors from the American College of Physicians, the second largest group of doctors in the US released a statement informing the world &#8220;Mainstream Medicine Endorses Medical Marijuana.&#8221; </p>
<p>The ACP position paper demolishes several myths, starting with the notion still proclaimed by some politicians that marijuana is unsafe for medical use. The College notes that the most serious objection to medical marijuana &#8212; potential harm to the lungs from smoking &#8212; has largely been solved by a technology called vaporization, already proven in scientific studies.</p>
<p>The ACP position paper also explains that there is no reason to believe that protecting medical marijuana patients leads to increased drug abuse. &#8220;Marijuana has not been proven to be the cause or even the most significant predictor of serious drug abuse,&#8221; the doctors write. &#8220;Opiates are highly addictive, yet medically effective &#8230; There is no evidence to suggest that medical use of opiates has increased perception that their illicit use is safe or acceptable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quoted from PR.Canna Zine website  for full article.</p>
<p>Harry please check your facts!</p>
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		<title>By: Fleeced</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-47104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fleeced]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicholas - how about we go the other way and start an olympics where anything goes as far as drugs are concerned.  I wonder which would be more popular to watch.

We could do the same with genetic engineering.  No doubt some will consider engineering a cubic chunk of flesh to block the goal in soccer as going too far... wowsers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas &#8211; how about we go the other way and start an olympics where anything goes as far as drugs are concerned.  I wonder which would be more popular to watch.</p>
<p>We could do the same with genetic engineering.  No doubt some will consider engineering a cubic chunk of flesh to block the goal in soccer as going too far&#8230; wowsers!</p>
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		<title>By: fatfingers</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-47102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fatfingers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 10:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[England wants to reclassify marijuana back up to class B, against the recommendations of its own experts. The money quote about psychosis: 

&quot;You&#039;d need to prevent 5,000 young males from taking cannabis to stop one case of schizophrenia. And for women, it would be 20,000 to stop one case.&quot;
-Michael Rawlins, Drugs Misuse Advisory Council

Pot is bad for you - bad for your lungs and air passages, bad for your concentration and memory, bad for your emotional state if you&#039;re vulnerable. But so what? The role of government is not to prevent all possible harm, because that&#039;s impossible.

And the evidence about reduction in drug use typically shows the greatest effect comes from education, not punitive laws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>England wants to reclassify marijuana back up to class B, against the recommendations of its own experts. The money quote about psychosis: </p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;d need to prevent 5,000 young males from taking cannabis to stop one case of schizophrenia. And for women, it would be 20,000 to stop one case.&#8221;<br />
-Michael Rawlins, Drugs Misuse Advisory Council</p>
<p>Pot is bad for you &#8211; bad for your lungs and air passages, bad for your concentration and memory, bad for your emotional state if you&#8217;re vulnerable. But so what? The role of government is not to prevent all possible harm, because that&#8217;s impossible.</p>
<p>And the evidence about reduction in drug use typically shows the greatest effect comes from education, not punitive laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Blombadon</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/08/cannabis-at-the-post-office/#comment-47101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blombadon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 09:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry Clarke claims that research has &quot;linked smoking joints to lung cancer&quot;.

That is complete bullshit, Harry. You are talking out of your arse. You clearly have not done your research properly, or with an open mind.

Despite intensive efforts to prove otherwise, properly controlled studies have failed to establish any significant link between smoking cannabis (only) and lung or upper respiratory tract cancers. None. Nil. Zero. One recent major epidemiological study on exactly this question even found that there is a slight negative corelation between cannabis smoking and these cancers. (See &#039;Marijuana use and the risk of lung and upper aerodigestive tract cancers: results of a population-based case-control study&#039;; Hashibe M, et al, 2006). 

Compare and contrast to the massive and unarguable link between tobacco smoking and those types of cancers, and a whole bunch of other serious diseases, especially cardiovascular.

If the foaming-at-the-mouth, howling-at-the-moon, anti-drug zealots were genuine about reducing the damage from recreational drug use, they would direct all their energy against truly appalling trainwreck caused by alcohol and tobacco, which account for the VAST majority of injury and death arising from recreational drug use. Hands down winners. No argument about that.

I ain&#039;t holding my breath.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Clarke claims that research has &#8220;linked smoking joints to lung cancer&#8221;.</p>
<p>That is complete bullshit, Harry. You are talking out of your arse. You clearly have not done your research properly, or with an open mind.</p>
<p>Despite intensive efforts to prove otherwise, properly controlled studies have failed to establish any significant link between smoking cannabis (only) and lung or upper respiratory tract cancers. None. Nil. Zero. One recent major epidemiological study on exactly this question even found that there is a slight negative corelation between cannabis smoking and these cancers. (See &#8216;Marijuana use and the risk of lung and upper aerodigestive tract cancers: results of a population-based case-control study&#8217;; Hashibe M, et al, 2006). </p>
<p>Compare and contrast to the massive and unarguable link between tobacco smoking and those types of cancers, and a whole bunch of other serious diseases, especially cardiovascular.</p>
<p>If the foaming-at-the-mouth, howling-at-the-moon, anti-drug zealots were genuine about reducing the damage from recreational drug use, they would direct all their energy against truly appalling trainwreck caused by alcohol and tobacco, which account for the VAST majority of injury and death arising from recreational drug use. Hands down winners. No argument about that.</p>
<p>I ain&#8217;t holding my breath.</p>
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