Somehow I’m rather unimpressed if I have to bow down to him. We’re quite happy to learn from him and get support and vice versa.

Get on your knees and kiss his feet. This little hit piece is retarded. They’ve done more for the movement than you can ever hope to accomplish.. give some respect to those that deserve it.

Perhaps the biggest problem is the
fact that the framers did not truly provide for an independent judiciary as they made it part of government with the government paying the salaries of the judges. In America, by and large, the judges are nothing more than rubber stamps for government action.

My solution? Truly independent judges, not paid by the state. In reality, to be truly independent, judges must be libertarian as only libertarians have the demonstrated potential to put government in its place-the asheep of history. Judges can only be libertarians as the true function of the judiciary, as envisioned by Madison, is to be “an impenetrable bulwark against every invasion of freedom.” To the extent that one thinks that the income tax, a standing military, welfare programs, drug laws and the like have a legitimate place in a free society, one is utterly unqualified to be a judge as one would lack the requisite independence. How can one be independent when one favors the maintenance or expansion of marxist, leninist, Maoist, Reaganesue, Blairian totalitarian values?

As for the American Civil War? Tell me why the Brits, the French, the Portguese, the Dutch and even the Russians ended slavery without war crimes and a bloodbath? I don’t know what you Aussies are taught about Dishonest Abe and the American Civil War(I’ll bet though that the average mate knows a hell of a lot more about American history than the average american)-but here, Lincoln is an icon and to some, divinity itself.

Of course, our civl war was not fought to end slavery; it was to implement, on a grand scale, the so-called “american system” advocated by Lincoln his entire adult life. The “american system” advocated by Lincoln had nothing to do with free market economics; rather, it espoused high tariffs, internal improvements, a national bank, an income tax and a humongus federal government. As you know, high tariffs are nothing more than a tax on imported goods to benefit domestic producers or suppliers of the goods in question. Internal improvements means corporate welfare. Lincoln favored subsidizing his former railroad clients and other busineses who supported the republican party. Perhaps the greatest scandal in U.S. history was the Tea Pot Dome scandal. American kids are brainwashed with the socialist non-sense that our railroads could not have been built without government subsidy. Licncoln bought land around where the railroads would be built PRIOR to the public being aware of where the railroad would go. The facts are that indians were harassed and killed, irish and chinese immigrants were used to build on an indentured servant basis and they were often horribly mistreated, beaten and killed in constructing the government railroads. American kids are not taught that James J Hill built the Great Northern Pacific Railroad without a dime of public money and that it was built without any indian troubles as Mr. Hill PAID the indians for the right to build upon their land. He also paid a higher wage to the workers.

Do you know that the Emancipation Proclamation was a joke? Do you know that Lincoln did not free one slave as that edict only applied to the slaves in the south-he did not free any of the thousands of slaves in the north. No, Nicholas, the north did have slaves-even up to and including the civil war. Do you know that lincoln ordered the incarceration of thousands of northern newspaper editors and publishers who dared to criticize him or his war?

There are americans who think that there is no right of secession. They have no idea that the Declaration of Independence was a document of secession. Lincoln said that the union came first and that the states were borne of the union.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH USING ALL CAPS. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WHINE ABOUT SUCH A THING?

always be wary of people who use CAPITALS (no names mentioned, Graeme)

incidentally, if you are reading this blog Graeme, unlike Catallaxy, you are not banned here (only from Temujin’s posts). you are welcome to post here provided you are polite and don’t dominate the threads.

never a truer word spoken

which is probably the best argument against war (even ‘good’ wars like WWII)

Or, perhaps, you do recognize that your response was a NON-SEQUITTUR, but thought that you could score some points with the drivel you posted. Either way, not the libertarian way. This sort of intellectual ineptitude is far more dangerous to libertarianism than anything Rockwell is alleged to have done.

However, perhaps it is time to question just what type of libertarian Pommy is. In my opinion,(Pommy this means that I am not stating a fact) libertarians should never hesitate to condemn the sins of the united states government. In my opoinion, libertarians must keep in mimnd that the ultimate goal is liberty-not allegiance to a political sub-division or a nation state. Again, in my opinion, worship of nation state is for sheeple, for losers, for slaves and for suckers in trust for the wolves, tyrants and parasites.

Pommy, it appears to me that, if push came to shove, you would side with those who want flag, pledge of alleigance, respect for armed authority, the income tax, the administrative state, the trillion dollar military, immunity for government actors and worship of soldier boys and girls against those who want no income tax, no drug laws, no IRS, no DEA, no administrative state, no warfare/welfare state, no imperialism, no respect for state or any of caesar’s minions. I have no doubt that if the latter could only come to pass with the elimination of the united states you would side with the former.

Do you think that the framers were more concerned about the primacy of individual liberty or with the maintenance of nation state? THere are some who theorize that we need a nation state in order to have freedom. Obviously, I do not agree. Keep in mind that the founding generation was overwhelmingly committed to the principle of natural rights and that government should only exist to protect those rights. Indeed, Jefferson’s words in the Declaration of Independence provide support for my contention that the framers believed that liberty is numero uno, not the nation state. As DiLorenzo reminds us, the Declaration of Independence was, above all, a declaration of secession. The framers lived the reality that devotion to country got you confiscatory taxation, slavery, crony capitalism, obsequiousness to Crown, genocide, etc.

As libertarians, we need to have the stones to let folks know that its the freedom, stupid, not the star spangled banner. We should not hesitate to point out that Dishonest Abe incarcerated the grandson of Francis Scott Key for daring to speak about against Imperial Abe’s war crimes. America gave us Dishonest Abe, the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people by the union army under Dishonest Abe’s direction and CONTROL. America gave us the income tax, FDR, the fire bombings of Dresden, the mining of Japanses harbors long before Pearl Harbor, aiding and abetting the british empire in its quest to maintain its empire in southeast asia, the incarceration of japanese americans, JIM CROW, Ronald Reagan-the socialist nit wit who presided over the greatest expansion of government in world history up to that point in time, the genocide of the red man, the black man, GUN CONTROL, the progressive income tax, the IRS and the legions of parasites who feed at the public trough. Who wants to get all goose pimply over that catalouge of criminal catastrophes?

We have to constantly remind folks that America doesn’t “give” you opportunity-you have an inalienable right to succeed-it doesn’t come from some socialist construct. Yeah, I know that there are many who think that freedom can only thrive under the “protective” umbrella of a constitutional republic. Just can’t buy that. We do not have a constitutional republic in practice, so America is not a good example. Further, I wouldn’t be posting this if America was truly a constitutional republic where freedom reigned. If freedom truly reigned here, this blog would not exist.

To be sure, many think that the nation state is needed to protect liberty lest the bad guys impose their will. All of recorded history demonstrates, but particularly the 20th century, that all most all violence(for those who are logically challenged, note that I do not say absolutely all violence) is generated by the nation state-not private, individual violence utterly unconnected to the state. Thus, the record of the nation state in protecting liberty is an abject failure, including the good ole USnA.

Of course, many like to play the relativist card. This is the proposition that, sure, perfect its not, but its the best thing this world’s got. For me, this is a loser’s proposition. As libertarians, should we not be about a robust, even truculent, advocacy of freedom-even if it means it ruffles the chinese made, wal-mart sold polyester shirts upon which the sheeple pin their flagsies?

A wacko is one who is willing to enslave himself, and others, to a nation state while condemning those who question such sheeple minded stupidity.