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		<title>By: کسب درآمد وبمستر</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-100435</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[کسب درآمد وبمستر]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Youre unquestionably correct with this piece.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youre unquestionably correct with this piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheap Com Comains</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-100050</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheap Com Comains]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe you are right completely]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you are right completely</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-56684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[m]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i too personally think that compulsory voting is a contradictory reform in efforts to have a democratic political system come to fruition. I have to give a presentation about why compulsory voting is hurtful to democracy at Santa Clara University but am having a hard time finding credible statistics and figures. If anybody would be willing to help me support the cause please send any and all links with info to my email. thank you. : ).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i too personally think that compulsory voting is a contradictory reform in efforts to have a democratic political system come to fruition. I have to give a presentation about why compulsory voting is hurtful to democracy at Santa Clara University but am having a hard time finding credible statistics and figures. If anybody would be willing to help me support the cause please send any and all links with info to my email. thank you. : ).</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Quilty</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-48243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Quilty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, actually that is wrong, Nicholas. They can fine you for deliberately spoiling your ballot. (And you are also committing an offence by suggesting people do not have to make a formal vote). While finding out who deliberately spoiled their ballot with secret voting is problematic, it is certainly punishable. And shortly we will move to electronic voting in which it will be impossible to make an invalid vote. So kiss your &quot;non-compulsory voting&quot; idea goodbye...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, actually that is wrong, Nicholas. They can fine you for deliberately spoiling your ballot. (And you are also committing an offence by suggesting people do not have to make a formal vote). While finding out who deliberately spoiled their ballot with secret voting is problematic, it is certainly punishable. And shortly we will move to electronic voting in which it will be impossible to make an invalid vote. So kiss your &#8220;non-compulsory voting&#8221; idea goodbye&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas gray</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-48230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicholas gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank Devine keeps making this point- they cannot fine you for not voting, but for not turning up! You can always put in a blank piece of ballot paper. It is an imposition to be forced to turn up, yes, but you don&#039;t have to vote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Devine keeps making this point- they cannot fine you for not voting, but for not turning up! You can always put in a blank piece of ballot paper. It is an imposition to be forced to turn up, yes, but you don&#8217;t have to vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinclair Davidson</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-48017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sinclair Davidson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 11:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.cis.org.au/policy/summer05-06/polsumm0506-2.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cis.org.au/policy/summer05-06/polsumm0506-2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org.au/policy/summer05-06/polsumm0506-2.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: DavidLeyonhjelm</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-48014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidLeyonhjelm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 08:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’m not saying that the LDP is for me, but I am interested in learning more.&lt;/i&gt;

The website is here: http://www.ldp.org.au/ Have a read of the policies. 

If you&#039;d like to meet some members, check the &#039;become involved&#039; link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m not saying that the LDP is for me, but I am interested in learning more.</i></p>
<p>The website is here: <a href="http://www.ldp.org.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ldp.org.au/</a> Have a read of the policies. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to meet some members, check the &#8216;become involved&#8217; link.</p>
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		<title>By: A De M</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-47987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A De M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 02:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi David

I can understand that. I joined the liberal party sometime ago, mainly because:

- It seemed the most natural home for a libertarian
- I was not aware of an alternative
- If I had known about the LDP, I probably would not have joined, as my view was that you need to belong to a major party to make a difference.

While sympathetic to some policies, I&#039;ve come to realise that, by and large, the Libs do not reflect my beliefs. There is not much there that I feel I can be passionate about. I&#039;ve been following &quot;thoughts on freedom&quot; on and off for a few months. I&#039;m not saying that the LDP is for me, but I am interested in learning more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David</p>
<p>I can understand that. I joined the liberal party sometime ago, mainly because:</p>
<p>- It seemed the most natural home for a libertarian<br />
- I was not aware of an alternative<br />
- If I had known about the LDP, I probably would not have joined, as my view was that you need to belong to a major party to make a difference.</p>
<p>While sympathetic to some policies, I&#8217;ve come to realise that, by and large, the Libs do not reflect my beliefs. There is not much there that I feel I can be passionate about. I&#8217;ve been following &#8220;thoughts on freedom&#8221; on and off for a few months. I&#8217;m not saying that the LDP is for me, but I am interested in learning more.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidLeyonhjelm</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-47985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidLeyonhjelm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 00:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I am very interested to hear if the LDP think that there is a unique opportunity at the moment to increase the profile of the party&lt;/i&gt;

We don&#039;t necessarily discuss our business here, A De M. This is a public forum. 

Nonetheless, we have had a number of disgruntled ex-Liberals join in recent weeks. We think this will increase for the reasons you mention. 

We would like to think we can fill any gaps created by a merger between the Nats and Libs, but we are still a small party that very few people have heard of. We have to be realistic.

With the Libs and Libs/Nats looking more and more illiberal, economically and socially, there is a constituency looking for a home. If we do well in the Gippsland by-election, perhaps we will be seen as a viable alternative. (Plug: campaign volunteers and donors now needed.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am very interested to hear if the LDP think that there is a unique opportunity at the moment to increase the profile of the party</i></p>
<p>We don&#8217;t necessarily discuss our business here, A De M. This is a public forum. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, we have had a number of disgruntled ex-Liberals join in recent weeks. We think this will increase for the reasons you mention. </p>
<p>We would like to think we can fill any gaps created by a merger between the Nats and Libs, but we are still a small party that very few people have heard of. We have to be realistic.</p>
<p>With the Libs and Libs/Nats looking more and more illiberal, economically and socially, there is a constituency looking for a home. If we do well in the Gippsland by-election, perhaps we will be seen as a viable alternative. (Plug: campaign volunteers and donors now needed.)</p>
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		<title>By: A De M</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/29/compulsory-voting/#comment-47983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A De M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 23:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PJ, regardless of whom voluntary voting favours, IMHO it should always be justified by the fact that forcing an unwilling voter to the ballot box has to be undemocratic. We also have the right NOT to choose, don&#039;t we?

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While we are on the topic of smaller parties, I am very interested to hear if the LDP think that there is a unique opportunity  at the moment to increase the profile of the party, and in how you plan to position yourself for the future. One might argue that the coalition are more vulnerable than they have been in perhaps a generation. They are facing a number of headwinds that could potentially be exploited:

- The loss of a number of high profile figures, federally and in the NSW branch, and consequent confusion/disunity

 - The proposed merger between the Libs/Nats in QLD could potentially provide another distraction. How will core policy for thew new party is carved up between the policies of the previous parties? This could be crucial to how the merger might eventually be rolled out across the nation (if it were to happen). If they were to move to far in the Nat direction, you guys could seriously have some space to exploit, if you were prepared.

- Of course, being in wall-to-wall opposition doesn&#039;t make it any easier...

What do you guys think? Is there a strategy in place? Have I overestimated the size of the chink in the coalitions armour?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PJ, regardless of whom voluntary voting favours, IMHO it should always be justified by the fact that forcing an unwilling voter to the ballot box has to be undemocratic. We also have the right NOT to choose, don&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>While we are on the topic of smaller parties, I am very interested to hear if the LDP think that there is a unique opportunity  at the moment to increase the profile of the party, and in how you plan to position yourself for the future. One might argue that the coalition are more vulnerable than they have been in perhaps a generation. They are facing a number of headwinds that could potentially be exploited:</p>
<p>- The loss of a number of high profile figures, federally and in the NSW branch, and consequent confusion/disunity</p>
<p> &#8211; The proposed merger between the Libs/Nats in QLD could potentially provide another distraction. How will core policy for thew new party is carved up between the policies of the previous parties? This could be crucial to how the merger might eventually be rolled out across the nation (if it were to happen). If they were to move to far in the Nat direction, you guys could seriously have some space to exploit, if you were prepared.</p>
<p>- Of course, being in wall-to-wall opposition doesn&#8217;t make it any easier&#8230;</p>
<p>What do you guys think? Is there a strategy in place? Have I overestimated the size of the chink in the coalitions armour?</p>
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