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	<title>Comments on: NRL &#8211; Abolish The Salary Cap</title>
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		<title>By: Need the salary cap</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-53081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Need the salary cap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t want the NRL to get super broing like the premier league. We need a salary cap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t want the NRL to get super broing like the premier league. We need a salary cap.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-50084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the article points out the EPL is a prime example of a market unconstrained by artifical boundaries competing on a global scale.  Another key point about the EPL is that it has a promotion and relegation system in place, so unsuccessful teams are weeded out and replaced by more successful teams.

The NRL struggles on two counts, it imposes an artificial limit on salaries which results in the best players going overseas, but also rewards failure by not having promotion and relegation.  If promotion and relegation existed then the market could decide if there are too many teams in Sydney as there would be a mechanism for the Perth Reds to gain promotion to the top flight.  Entry to the NRL would be on the basis of on field results and not decision by the NRL board to create a new team on the Gold Coast.  It would also allow old clubs like Newtown to recover and return to the top flight.

Although the English Super League is about to abondon promotion and relegation for a few seasons this has in the past allowed new teams to enter the league, the Super League also runs a salary cap but it is I beleiev related to the amount of profit a club has, so the more profit the larger the cap, this provides an incentive to clubs to improve profit for on field gain, somthing else missing in the NRL model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the article points out the EPL is a prime example of a market unconstrained by artifical boundaries competing on a global scale.  Another key point about the EPL is that it has a promotion and relegation system in place, so unsuccessful teams are weeded out and replaced by more successful teams.</p>
<p>The NRL struggles on two counts, it imposes an artificial limit on salaries which results in the best players going overseas, but also rewards failure by not having promotion and relegation.  If promotion and relegation existed then the market could decide if there are too many teams in Sydney as there would be a mechanism for the Perth Reds to gain promotion to the top flight.  Entry to the NRL would be on the basis of on field results and not decision by the NRL board to create a new team on the Gold Coast.  It would also allow old clubs like Newtown to recover and return to the top flight.</p>
<p>Although the English Super League is about to abondon promotion and relegation for a few seasons this has in the past allowed new teams to enter the league, the Super League also runs a salary cap but it is I beleiev related to the amount of profit a club has, so the more profit the larger the cap, this provides an incentive to clubs to improve profit for on field gain, somthing else missing in the NRL model.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-48225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not disagreeing with you on any points. I&#039;m just pointing out that unlike a &quot;normal&quot; business, a club has loyalty beyond normal product loyalty. IE: Just because a team is rubbish doesn&#039;t mean the die hard fans will go for another team. Seeing clubs go because they are not bringing in the revenue would be abhorrent to those fans.

What the English premier league has going for it is the relegation system. If a club is struggling financially they can keep their head above water by selling off more expensive players and getting in cheapies. They can then sit down in a lower division while they sort their act out.

With no relegation in Rugby league the teams do not have that option. If they consistently lose then the fair weather fans leave and the club starts losing money. The NRL demands a high standard from the clubs for Stadium quality (there was talk of Manly losing it&#039;s televised home games, because brookie is in a poor state) so if they are not getting money in then there is every chance they will go under.

The relegation system I think could win favour with lots of NRL fans. In particular with fans who lost their teams during the ARL Vs Superleague stoush. Fans of Norths, the Steelers (even Newtown Jets fans!) would really benefit from a relegation system; it would give their teams a crack at former glory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not disagreeing with you on any points. I&#8217;m just pointing out that unlike a &#8220;normal&#8221; business, a club has loyalty beyond normal product loyalty. IE: Just because a team is rubbish doesn&#8217;t mean the die hard fans will go for another team. Seeing clubs go because they are not bringing in the revenue would be abhorrent to those fans.</p>
<p>What the English premier league has going for it is the relegation system. If a club is struggling financially they can keep their head above water by selling off more expensive players and getting in cheapies. They can then sit down in a lower division while they sort their act out.</p>
<p>With no relegation in Rugby league the teams do not have that option. If they consistently lose then the fair weather fans leave and the club starts losing money. The NRL demands a high standard from the clubs for Stadium quality (there was talk of Manly losing it&#8217;s televised home games, because brookie is in a poor state) so if they are not getting money in then there is every chance they will go under.</p>
<p>The relegation system I think could win favour with lots of NRL fans. In particular with fans who lost their teams during the ARL Vs Superleague stoush. Fans of Norths, the Steelers (even Newtown Jets fans!) would really benefit from a relegation system; it would give their teams a crack at former glory.</p>
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		<title>By: pommygranate</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-48223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pommygranate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben

It seems to my untrained eye that NRL clubs are going out of business because 
i) there are too many of them and 
ii) the star players are leaving for higher wages in europe. 

go Manly :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben</p>
<p>It seems to my untrained eye that NRL clubs are going out of business because<br />
i) there are too many of them and<br />
ii) the star players are leaving for higher wages in europe. </p>
<p>go Manly <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-48211</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pommy you aren&#039;t going to win any NRL supporting fans with that argument. The consequences of lifting the cap would mean the end of a lot of under performing clubs. Some are looking at the chop as we speak.

I surprised my friends by not supporting a demand for the NSW government to hand out 10 million to upgrade Brookvale oval (Eagles will be premiers in 08 btw). Their point is that clubs like Penrith and Cronulla got hand outs so why not us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pommy you aren&#8217;t going to win any NRL supporting fans with that argument. The consequences of lifting the cap would mean the end of a lot of under performing clubs. Some are looking at the chop as we speak.</p>
<p>I surprised my friends by not supporting a demand for the NSW government to hand out 10 million to upgrade Brookvale oval (Eagles will be premiers in 08 btw). Their point is that clubs like Penrith and Cronulla got hand outs so why not us?</p>
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		<title>By: DavidLeyonhjelm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidLeyonhjelm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;AFL - isn’t that a weird version of Gaelic football?&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed it is. Large quantities of beer (especially Guinness) are needed to make it comprehensible. Even when you understand it, it&#039;s not worth the effort. 

But NRL is played by men with cauliflower ears and no necks, who eat raw meat and drag their knuckles on the ground. No amount of beer makes it understandable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>AFL &#8211; isn’t that a weird version of Gaelic football?</i></p>
<p>Indeed it is. Large quantities of beer (especially Guinness) are needed to make it comprehensible. Even when you understand it, it&#8217;s not worth the effort. </p>
<p>But NRL is played by men with cauliflower ears and no necks, who eat raw meat and drag their knuckles on the ground. No amount of beer makes it understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: pommygranate</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-48011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pommygranate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AFL - isn&#039;t that a weird version of Gaelic football?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFL &#8211; isn&#8217;t that a weird version of Gaelic football?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim R</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-48010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Indian 20/20 competition also doesn&#039;t have salary caps does it?  

I often tell AFL fans I work with how salary caps aren&#039;t needed - using British Premier league as an example as one of the best sports competition set ups in the world.  

I love the way everyone tries to knock off a few key teams.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Indian 20/20 competition also doesn&#8217;t have salary caps does it?  </p>
<p>I often tell AFL fans I work with how salary caps aren&#8217;t needed &#8211; using British Premier league as an example as one of the best sports competition set ups in the world.  </p>
<p>I love the way everyone tries to knock off a few key teams.</p>
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		<title>By: nicholas gray</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-48006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nicholas gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NRL may be rubbish, but at least it&#039;s not AFL!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRL may be rubbish, but at least it&#8217;s not AFL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: AFL guy</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2008/05/30/nrl-abolish-the-salary-cap/#comment-48000</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AFL guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 07:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason that the NRL is unable to make inroads is simple - not only is the game poorly administered, the game is rubbish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that the NRL is unable to make inroads is simple &#8211; not only is the game poorly administered, the game is rubbish.</p>
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