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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-79139</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have a look at

http://www.hashemifamily.com/Kevan/Climate/

basically a quite detailed examination of the CRU data that was available prior to climategate - with an after climategate comment at the bottom..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have a look at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hashemifamily.com/Kevan/Climate/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hashemifamily.com/Kevan/Climate/</a></p>
<p>basically a quite detailed examination of the CRU data that was available prior to climategate &#8211; with an after climategate comment at the bottom..</p>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78884</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will:

There&#039;s no reason to go in and doubt AGW. We should simply demand the data, source code and methods used.

Anyone that lied should do face time with Bernie Madoff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no reason to go in and doubt AGW. We should simply demand the data, source code and methods used.</p>
<p>Anyone that lied should do face time with Bernie Madoff.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78883</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THIS IS A CALL TO ACTION 
We have been given a powerful tool in the form of GlimateGate.
It now has a name and has the potential to get a life of its own.
So if the mains stream media is not going to report on this then let us use the social Facebook and emails to spread the news.
Send the following two YouTube videos to two people that you know and ask them to send it onto at least 2 others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu_ok37HDuE
And 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEiLgbBGKVk

If you have a Facebook page post the two links.

Will]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS A CALL TO ACTION<br />
We have been given a powerful tool in the form of GlimateGate.<br />
It now has a name and has the potential to get a life of its own.<br />
So if the mains stream media is not going to report on this then let us use the social Facebook and emails to spread the news.<br />
Send the following two YouTube videos to two people that you know and ask them to send it onto at least 2 others.<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/Cu_ok37HDuE/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span><br />
And<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/nEiLgbBGKVk/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p>If you have a Facebook page post the two links.</p>
<p>Will</p>
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		<title>By: TerjeP (say tay-a)</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78875</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TerjeP (say tay-a)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve,

An interesting perspective. Given that China has commited to lower it&#039;s energy intensity (energy per unit of GDP) the argument put in your link would seem to be that this will just cause extra growth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>An interesting perspective. Given that China has commited to lower it&#8217;s energy intensity (energy per unit of GDP) the argument put in your link would seem to be that this will just cause extra growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091123083704.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091123083704.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091123083704.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hill</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terje,

Surely a theoretical halving or better of transmission losses is going to impact the budgetary and ecological goals of a Government with state owned distribution infrastructure?

It is just amazing we&#039;re not considering this whereas the ETS proposes to subsidise coal into a senile industry status.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terje,</p>
<p>Surely a theoretical halving or better of transmission losses is going to impact the budgetary and ecological goals of a Government with state owned distribution infrastructure?</p>
<p>It is just amazing we&#8217;re not considering this whereas the ETS proposes to subsidise coal into a senile industry status.</p>
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		<title>By: TerjeP (say tay-a)</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TerjeP (say tay-a)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark - it all assumes a simple end to end line with no intermediate tapping of power. Tripole retrofits have not been done anywhere that I know of and remain hypothetical. Reliability is also going to be a factor. Obviously for new long haul transmission DC is an option but I don&#039;t see any role for government in deciding between AC and DC transmission technology. Leave it to the engineers who are quite familiar with cost / benefit calculations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211; it all assumes a simple end to end line with no intermediate tapping of power. Tripole retrofits have not been done anywhere that I know of and remain hypothetical. Reliability is also going to be a factor. Obviously for new long haul transmission DC is an option but I don&#8217;t see any role for government in deciding between AC and DC transmission technology. Leave it to the engineers who are quite familiar with cost / benefit calculations.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hill</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~electriconf/2004/Barthold_The%20Future%20of%20Transmission%20Technology.pdf

&#039;Conversion of AC lines to DC of any form is economic only when the cost of alternatives is extremely high and/or the functional advantages of DC are compelling. If Conversion is an interesting option at all, the tri-pole option may tip the scales in DC’s favor. Even though tri-pole
converters will cost from ten to twenty percent more per kW than a bi-pole station, that premium is offset by three factors. 1. The real cost of conversion is not based on new capacity but rather on incremental capacity. The ability of the tri-pole to achieve a higher ratio of DC to AC capacity will more than offset the cost per kW premium of the terminals themselves. 2. The tri-pole option has an additional 37% advantage in utilization of the existing transmission asset. 3. The tri-pole’s redundancy has economic value to the extent it permits greater loading on parallel circuits.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~electriconf/2004/Barthold_The%20Future%20of%20Transmission%20Technology.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~electriconf/2004/Barthold_The%20Future%20of%20Transmission%20Technology.pdf</a></p>
<p>&#8216;Conversion of AC lines to DC of any form is economic only when the cost of alternatives is extremely high and/or the functional advantages of DC are compelling. If Conversion is an interesting option at all, the tri-pole option may tip the scales in DC’s favor. Even though tri-pole<br />
converters will cost from ten to twenty percent more per kW than a bi-pole station, that premium is offset by three factors. 1. The real cost of conversion is not based on new capacity but rather on incremental capacity. The ability of the tri-pole to achieve a higher ratio of DC to AC capacity will more than offset the cost per kW premium of the terminals themselves. 2. The tri-pole option has an additional 37% advantage in utilization of the existing transmission asset. 3. The tri-pole’s redundancy has economic value to the extent it permits greater loading on parallel circuits.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hill</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More:

http://www.solarec-egypt.com/resources/Larruskain_HVAC_to_HVDC.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.solarec-egypt.com/resources/Larruskain_HVAC_to_HVDC.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.solarec-egypt.com/resources/Larruskain_HVAC_to_HVDC.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hill</title>
		<link>http://blog.libertarian.org.au/2009/11/24/climategate/#comment-78831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More on AC to HVDC conversion:

http://www.pterra.com/techblog_16.htm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on AC to HVDC conversion:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pterra.com/techblog_16.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pterra.com/techblog_16.htm</a></p>
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